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@Rasp@raru.rePSA - The terms AMAB and AFAB are just misgendering with extra steps. If you see them used by people who probably don't mean any harm please gently correct them.
@ari@wetdry.world@Rasp i don't mind it in medical circumstances (mostly because biological sex, in most cases, is quite important to get right for proper treatment)
but i agree that when people use those terms outside of where absolutely necessary, it can certainly come off as malicious compliance at best
DetectaBeryl @Rasp@raru.re@ari most times I've seen it it would be better replaced with transmasc/transfem
@ari@Rasp i've seen a lot of people get confused about the ambiguity of the terms- i.e., does transmasc mean "transitioned from masculine" or "transitioned to masculine"?
i've actually come across many cases of well-meant people getting this mixed up
DetectaBeryl @Rasp@raru.re@ari I always thought it mean trans person who presents predominately masculine
@ari@Rasp same here! to me it makes more sense for the more respectful term to refer to the person's realised identity, rather than the former
i don't know if this is a thought that crosses through the minds of most cis people though, which is kinda understandable
DetectaBeryl @Rasp@raru.re@ari There is also Trans Androgyne for anyone who likes to strike the middle or leave it ambious
@ari@Rasp i've definitely heard more people use "nonbinary" for that, but that's certainly good to know!!
DetectaBeryl @Rasp@raru.re@ari Nonbinary people can be transmasc/fem if they present as such.
@ari@Rasp i've seen this too- recently, even!
i've never been nonbinary (always had a lean to some gender through my life) so i can't say i have the personal experience to fully understand it, but of course one's identity is theirs to discover :>
DetectaBeryl @Rasp@raru.re@ari I would technically fall under NB / Transfem. I'm Technically NB and prefer to present a bit more feminine.
@raeve@transfem.social@Rasp@raru.re @ari@wetdry.world [transfem.social] I am summoned. Sup. I'm non-binary but was full fem full time presentation for years. I never had super masculine traits, not even body hair, but it didn't creep up on me until last year that I would prefer feminine secondary characteristics and started HRT.
But I don't call myself a trans woman. It's too prescriptive maybe? It's binary at minimum. It was always easier to point to what I wasn't, and male, a man, was already on that list. I do hot girl shit, I accept being called 'girl' on the same level as 'dude', I'm transfem AF but I'm also still enby.
Anyway, root topic: The issue I have with AMAB/AFAB is one shared with 'GRS' — it's not about the 'used to be' part, but they all invoke assignment as some magical external gender construct, as if a third party has any input at all. GRS annoys me extra by subtly revalidating either of those errant -AB designations.
'Allegedly' is still my favorite word to swap in instead, but 'assumed' still makes good parlance.
