Posts and replies

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
Whatever OS you're on, don't run random scripts without reading and understanding them lol.

@dushman yeah but windows has bloat so I went onto Google dot com and I searched windows debloater and I installed the first script and now my computer says I'm part of a botnet now! Man I love being part of a community!

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
Yeah that has probably happened to clueless people

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
AME is legit and all their stuff is open source. Would recommend if you have to use Windows.

@dushman I don't recommend running debloat scripts cause 90% of what people say about windows bloat know nothing about how services work

@dushman also this wasn't an invitation for you to give me your software recommendations.

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
I'm not forcing you to use it. ​​
Maybe someone will see it and find it useful.

@dushman Unsolicited software advice is actually one of my biggest pet peeves. Please delete it.

Why would you even think that a post being critical about Windows Debloat Scripts would solicit "Hey, this script is good tho I promise!"

It's like selling snake oil to someone trying to raise awareness of the pseudoscience behind snake oil.

@dushman
Also if I was a malicious actor I too would've put the source code in public, but would implement malicious attributes in the provided binaries.

A project being open source means nothing in terms of the intent of the individual behind the project, it just means you have to be more clever with your implementation of the malicious aspects of the project.

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
Well I never said open source software can't be malicious. Just more trustworthy since auditing is a whole lot easier.

would implement malicious attributes in the provided binaries

@dushman I'd say Debloating windows is a rather sketchy business but it's a fool's errand anyways.

@dushman it's literally on the same level of snake oil that "download more ram" comes from, but instead of the idea that it's a failure on the user's fault for not having enough system resources, it's instead a failure of the software provider's fault.

I fail to see how they are any different except one is seen as a joke while the other is seen as a way to squeeze more performance (which the comparisons are almost always in the error of margin) out of your system.

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world

download more ram

@dushman telemetry sucks but you don't really know how "useless" stuff is until you have something that relies on it as a dependency hangs your entire system.

It doesn't really reduce idle resources, cause if you have a computer that was made with competent components in the last 10 years you should be more than fine.

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
I mean the home editions have fucking Candy Crush preinstalled. Stuff like Edge, windows media player, groove or phone sync was useless to me cuz I never wanted to use them in the first place. Modern Windows absolutely has a bunch of useless software out of the box.

@dushman they don't run unless you launch them, I don't know how you can think that they impact idle resource usage unless you're equivocating two things that have no correlation

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
For example Edge runs background services out of the box lol

@dushman I don't think that's true

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
I absolutely remember that being the case. I don't have Windows installed anywhere rn though.

@Zyro1331@wolfdo.gg @ioletsgo@wetdry.world
It is on Win11 yeah. Even on 10 Edge has background services for some reason though.

@ioletsgo @dushman Honestly I'd love to give Edge a spin because of how well it integrates with Windows, but if it wasn't so naggy and popup ridden, I just can't use it daily. That's already coming from someone who doesn't care much about their privacy and the other weird goofball things with edge.

KDE Plasma is an excellent example of browser integration done correctly, where it just kinda works with everything and dances with the system no matter what browser you're using. (Though this ain't a KDE is better than Windows situation, honestly everyone's got their problems when I deal with three operating systems every day lmao)

@Zyro1331 @ioletsgo @dushman Also Edge is used in a lot of backend rendering in Windows 11 as part of the "Edge Webview" interface, so killing and nuking Edge will actually break a lot of things, and there are even examples of third party apps that use Edge Webview for drawing their interface.

@Hayden@wolfdo.gg @Zyro1331@wolfdo.gg
Yeah it would, I'm pretty sure though you could use open shell to fix that. Which I'm pretty sure is what AME does on 11 but I haven't tried. I installed AME on 10 where removing Edge doesn't really break anything.

@affine@yourwalls.today @Zyro1331@wolfdo.gg @Hayden@wolfdo.gg
Literally like Electron but even worse

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
On my hardware it wasn't slow even out of the box but I'd rather have more resources freed up for heavy things I might need to do

@dushman oh you're just a dumbass.

@ioletsgo@wetdry.world
How is keeping your system lean a dumb thing? I do the same thing on my Linux setup and it's fast as fuck.

@dushman don't touch shit and don't run shit you don't know. As a security minded individual, Debloating Windows is one of the dumbest fucking things you can do.

If you care so much about bloat, genuinely Linux is the better option for you. I care very little about "bloat" and I even make fun of people who claim any sort of user enhancement they dislike as bloat yet I still use Linux on a daily basis.

And I enjoy my experience on Linux cause I don't give a shit about bloat.

@dushman literally yesterday I made an entire openbox setup with 300 total packages just to make fun of this dumb as rocks sentiment that shit needs to be lean to be good.

@dushman IF YOU'RE FAILING TO GET SHIT RUNNING UNDER WINE, DEBLOATING WINDOWS LIKELY WOULD ONLY HURT YOUR CAPABILITIES TO RUN IT IN WINDOWS YOU DUMB FUCK

@dushman yeah but compiling on windows is rather aids for the end user so nobody is gonna do it except for people who use Linux.

@voltrina @dushman they cause breakage as it is, if you even look at a program that depends on a service that it removes, your entire system will hang.

@suonabera
Windows server 2003 with mods ​​

@dushman I tried that recently and it's legitimately ass, don't do it

@suonabera
I just use Wine/Proton these days cuz it's gotten really good lol

@suonabera
The super old games legit run better than on modern windows

@dushman I mean, it's playable..

@dushman i used the steam_legacy build of half-life (you can still reach it via the Betas menu in the steam settings for the game). You might have to disable Steam Cloud for half-life and delete the cfg files for the game and fiddle with parameters after. After that, it just... works.

@nullpotential@fedia.social

game pass

@dushman PC Game Pass. It requires the Xbox app. I was dual booting, but had to switch back because I'm running low on disk space.

@nullpotential@fedia.social
Oh that game pass. Never tried it. I don't even play most of the things on there.

@nullpotential@fedia.social
You could just pirate the ones you play and run them under Wine (provided they work under Wine in the first place). https://www.protondb.com/ is a good site for checking that.