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ok i think making another post about threads is warranted now.
i've been kinda on the fence about this for a while but something i'm not on the fence about is that it's NOT OKAY to use defederation as a way to blackmail other instances into upholding your views. people who block instances purely because they don't also block threads, check your head and realize you're sabotaging the open web.
let me make clear once again that blocking instances should be a choice left to individual users except for the MOST extreme cases.

okay, now that we've got that figured out. the federation of Threads is the fediverse's prime opportunity to get mainstream attention. do we really have enough reasons to burn it?
i'd argue we don't.
that, as long as zuck doesn't try to do the whole fediblock blackmail thing too, but please let's assume good faith. if we throw pitchforks at those who can and want to help the fediverse become the internet's new town square, it won't be, simple as that.

also, fedi is used by people who won't leave for a corporate offering. not wanting to use meta's stuff is why we're all here. fair to assume they won't be able to extinguish it further than they'll have extended it, and therefore that there's nothing to be lost from threads.net federating.

so, at least for now, please chill.

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@soop
Ok, what if an instance is full-on dedicated to fascism?

I think the right-wingers haven’t been well represented in the fediverse yet. But what if truth.social federates? Is it ok because it is very popular? Even if calling for bloodbaths, violent overthrow of democracy?

My point is that it’s not rare at all to get extremes.

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@soop I'm honestly still on the fence about it because, on the one hand, I firmly believe that we shouldn't block an entire instance due to the actions of a few bad actors within it. However, I also understand this means putting greater moderation burden on individuals, and a lot of people could get hurt in the meantime as moderators play whack-a-troll.

I feel like we need more robust federation tools that allow instances to set up rules and guidelines between each other (think treaties between countries), where the connection will be severed once one instance violates that agreement. This gives a chance for admins to vet each other's instances and define how they'll interact on a much more granular level.

No idea if that's any better than the current system, but people are complicated, and we can't rely on any black & white solution to these issues. As always, we must lead with compassion and nuance. ❤️