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@Reiddragon @b Never used XMPP, but comparing Discord and Telegram to Signal (including both discord and telegram bc they both fit the same use case-ish): Groups with multiple channels/rooms (telegram has it similar to discord), public chats, new users joining can get full message history, direct link to messages, granular permissions for users (discord is better at this tho), those one-sided transmission “groups”(?) (only Telegram), not fucking loosing all your messages if you move devices (damn even WhatsApp has e2ee backups, at this point Signal is just being an asshole for not adding it), actually mentioning when a message is forwarded and not OC (telegram even mentions the original sender if they didn’t disable this in privacy configs!), user roles (on Discord), a good profile page with links and stuff (on Discord), etc.

For any kind of public groups for communities, Discord and Telegram are the only real feasible options. Signal is in no way nearly close to that. Damn, even Matrix is closer to that but it still sucks and misses most features. But Signal isn’t even close to being a real Telegram or Discord alternative. They don’t fit the same use case at all.

We desperately need a Discord/Telegram FLOSS (and preferably federated) alternative, but that just doesn’t exist yet as far as I’m aware.

I don’t know much about XMPP, but at least the clients I found seem to not have any of that either.

If you’re using Telegram for one-to-one communication or small single-page groups then sure move to Signal (unless you like not losing all your messages when moving devices), but on that case is anyone really still using Telegram for that use case?