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FRONT END DEVELOPERS SHOULD BE BANNED FROM USING THEIR HARDWARE FOR A MONTH EACH YEAR AND INSTEAD GIVEN A LOW END 10 YEARS OLD NETBOOK
@yakkoj@fosstodon.org@halva also, their internet access needs to be capped speed-wise and maybe even data-wise for that same time period.
@yakkoj@fosstodon.org@ianrogers @systemz @halva I'd imagine we'd have "CSS framework" baggage to replace all the junky js Framework baggage ;o)
@halva@wetdry.world I am a professional software developer and I work on a Thinkpad released in 2008.
@lanodan @SuperDicq my 2015 asus x555lb starts SCREAMING the instant i open any mk instance, that fucking webapp is legit cursed
@halva@wetdry.world @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Misskey (or Foundkey in my case) is honestly not even that bad.
Last week I wanted to create a Github account for some work related thing and the signup page (https://github.com/signup) has these moving stars in the background and it literally slowed down my entire computer to 2 FPS and I just kinda gave up. Just their signup page alone is 100 times worse than Misskey.
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.meI don't even think Unity HTML5 games are as bad.
@halva@wetdry.world @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me My Thinkpad X200 can actually output 4k@30fps over display port using the docking station believe it or not.
I have a 4k screen at work but I force the resolution to 1600x900 to make things smoother.
@halva@wetdry.world @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me The text is too small to read on a 22 inch 4k display and I don't want wanna mess with DPI settings.
@halva@wetdry.world @lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me Also I use this laptop for 3D print work.
The latest version of PrusaSlicer still supports OpenGL 2.0 which is very based of them so it works completely fine. For Blender I have to use version 2.79b. All versions of Blender 2.80+ require OpenGL 3.3 which my laptop does not support.
@lanodan@queer.hacktivis.me @halva@wetdry.world Foundkey works fine because it is a little bit lighter on the bloat than Misskey. I do have to turn off all the animations and such of course.
@halva@wetdry.world This laptop's graphical capabilities are so bad that it can't even use the modern Youtube UI while playing a video at more than 10 fps, which honestly is a good thing because it forces me to use a lightweight frontend like Invidious.
@SuperDicq @halva I chose my Thinkpad model for the presence of a good keyboard combined with the absence of a touchpad.
@halva I do think that they need to be reigned in but I think that limiting things to the power of a netbook is a little too far in the other direction lol
@maryjane@coletivos.org@halva A month is not enough...
@pepper1700@hachyderm.io@halva I have a 12 years old notebook, but is is high end unfortunately.
@halva@wetdry.world Bold of you to assume I'm not already running a potato
@CauseOfBSOD@fedi.bangsparks.com@halva@wetdry.world 10 year old netbook? cmon, do better. i use a 15 year old laptop most days (although its higher end than "netbook"). at least force frontend devs to make software that supports opengl version "fucking ancient lol only vlc runs on this"
@CauseOfBSOD@fedi.bangsparks.com@halva@wetdry.world although maybe limit them to hdd and 4gb ram as well (my laptop supports max 4gb officially, although i run it with 8gb which is the max that people have found it works with)
@halva already using a 10 year old netbook but developing extremely bloated frontends anyways mwahahaha 
/s
@halva
But I do stop using my personal machine to use the one the company gave me (aka, passed on to me when someone else left eight years ago) every time I go into the office to work. Honest!
@halva as a front end developer, i 100% agree
@codemonkeymike@fosstodon.org@halva I love this. I actually keep around a dual core Celeron laptop around for this purpose. If my web app is too painfully slow on that, I've got work to do
*Ada - Np-93/237 
@ada@zoner.work@halva@wetdry.world reminds me of a 10 year old laptop review that was using up to date windows 11, and windows + edge itself crashed and froze multiple times but ran high end benchmarks without freezing or crashing (albeit at the worst score imaginable.)
*Ada - Np-93/237 @ada@zoner.work@timjan@social.linux.pizza @halva@wetdry.world my point is that microsoft should use their own software on a variety of hardware, your remark doesn't change that. idk where this hostility is coming from.
?) @wyatt8740@tech.lgbtWhy stop at 10?
Make them all use a powerbook G4 (jeez, 20 this year) so they finally learn about making endian-independent code and Firefox finally gets fixed after 60 major version numbers of being broken.
I run debian on mine and it's appalling how much breaks just because no one has a big endian CPU to test stuff on.
@wyatt8740 @astrid @halva the amount of software that exists today that is built entirely around false assumptions about endianness and even cpu architecture (load-bearing x86 assembly that nobody knows how to replace) is frightening. the latter is being solved with a greater push to arm on the desktop but the former will remain unsolved
@halva Hotter take -- they should do this while using cellphone-tethered internet while riding the subway of the closest major city that has one.
@halva @wordshaper that has one subway? Or that has one subway with internet 
cries in German
@mirabilos @halva As a resident (almost) of Boston I was thinking of one of our subway lines, which has very spotty cell service, the service it does have is noisy because the train cars throw off huge amounts of RF, and the cars themselves are sometimes on fire.
I assume the German subways are less frequently on fire than the T in Boston is, though I'll grant that's a *very* low bar.
@halva as someone who has to do lots of front end code: YES, PLEASE!
it's ridiculous how we waste ressources nowadays
@halva I wouldn't even suggest this is controversial. When developing an application, I get having a powerful computer to compile that code, but testing should happen on lower-end equipment. It's called meeting people where they are. If the experience is bad for the majority of people because your frontend requires too much oomph, nobody will want to use your app.
@teidesu@very.stupid.fish@halva@wetdry.world why would anyone in their right mind use a 10yo netbook
@teidesu@very.stupid.fish@LJNielsenDk@tech.lgbt @halva@wetdry.world you can buy a decent used laptop for like 200-300$. or a chromebook.