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stop liking this post i accidentally stole the joke

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@boxy outstanding

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@boxy "yes I know there are 14 standards already - and those standards are all *terrible*"

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@boxy When competing standards fail in the face of preferable competitors, they also become deprecated.

So it's not like it's a permanent state of things.

New standards can be needed, older standards can be deprecated. And then they can be brought back into recommendation when major flaws in the new standards that weren't noticed due to flaws in the evaluation process are noticed.

Or something new incorporating the better parts of both (and a bunch of compatibility stuff) can be made.
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@lispi314 @boxy Deprecated isn't removed though; and in technology, there can be strong holdouts. I'm immediately reminded of IE8's holdouts...and the fax machine.

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@lispi314 @boxy It seems like such an inefficient and wasteful process.

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@ramsey @boxy Dynamic adaptation can in theory greatly outcompete static preparation in efficiency.

There are certain parameter constraints that must hold true in general or always for that to be the case though. The rate of mutation vs cost of adapting to it at any given time, for instance.

Of course at the moment there is a problem that resource efficiency and sustainability are *not* primary concerns for a lot of standards and participants in their creation, as monetization remains their sole primary concern. That underlies the majority of the inefficiencies and why they're not being corrected.
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@boxy Funny! (Typed by an actual Buddhist monk on a linux laptop - can relate).

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@boxy if I have to read that alt text I'm also reading it as "Truth coming out of her well"

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@boxy Every org has That Guy. Bonus points when That Guy comes up with a standard and doesn't even follow it in his own work. (It's always a guy)

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@boxy Alt text, xkcd 927 standards:

HOW
STANDARDS PROLIFERATE:
SEE: A/C CHARGERS, CHARACTER ENCODINGS, INSTANT MESSAGING, ETC.)

SITUATION:
THERE ARE
14 COMPETING STANDARDS

Person A: 14?! RIDICULOUS!
WE NEED TO DEVELOP
ONE UNIVERSAL STANDARD THAT COVERS EVERYONE'S
USE CASES.

Person B: YEAH!

SITUATION:
THERE ARE
15 COMPETING STANDARDS.

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Seems to me when national/international groups create open standards we get Mastodon. When corporate enshittified standards are created we get the multitude of crappy standards.

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@boxy Matrix vs IRC :-)

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@boxy If every person who cares about doing a good job acts like that, then only people who don't care develop new standards.

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@boxy do you think xkcd regrets making that

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@boxy After all the best improvement to a codebase is deleting code.
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@boxy Alt text - that's not the WV from Homestuck, surely? The art style is completely different, and the WV isn't human.

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@boxy "We should improve technology somewhat"

"HTTP/3 is a new HTTP standard that runs over the QUIC transport"

Some luddites: "This is awful, use HTTP/1.1, HTTP/3 is only for Google"

Some other luddites: "Bad people use HTTP, use Gemini"

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@boxy this XKCD comic has caused irreversible damage xD

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@boxy@wetdry.world [wetdry.world] IM LIKE GIGGLING WHY DOES THE ID CALL HIM WV...

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@boxy@wetdry.world protocol doomers when someone suggests improving an existing protocol:

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This is a call out post. LOL.

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@boxy i dont think that guy is from homestuck i havent read it but i dont think he is from homestuck
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@boxy The first few words of your alt-text are an act of violence. Thank you for this and how dare you.

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@boxy I have a friend that always responds to "we should improve things" with that xkcd, stealing this

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@boxy ouch